Gryphon_

V31 is just a reformat of V30, as it is no longer necessary to have a row for every tank anymore.

The basis for the change to WN8 expected values that resulted in v30 (old format) and v31 (new format) was done with the full agreement of the WN8 team that's still around, for the following reasons: The continual flow of new tanks resulted in a workload that no-one wanted to support, and there were always 'missing' tanks - the old system was not sustainable The new method using v31 never has missing tanks, ever, and is sustainable with no work at all The new system reduces the expected value table to a 50 row table that is easy for modders to code into their mods as a static table WN8 was intended to be an account level rating, and the change to average per tier and type expected values make almost no difference to the rating for the vast majority of players Some tanks in some tiers are OP or UP compared to the others. The old system concealed that. The new system doesn't hide the OP and UP tanks - this increases the pressure on WG to fix the OP and UP tanks - which we all want, right? So the change was made for sound reasons and it works. I'm sorry you dont like it. Its your decision what you include in XVM, but if you put WN8 in, you might as well do it the way it is now as the community is confused why WN8 is different on XVM to what it is elsewhere. Here is v31 expected values for WN8: type tier frag dmg spot def win 1 1 1.69 223.29 1.42 1.40 58.15 1 2 1.40 240.21 1.63 1.51 58.00 1 3 1.21 290.59 1.71 1.32 57.68 1 4 0.92 329.26 1.75 1.11 55.86 1 5 0.69 393.22 2.40 0.75 54.30 1 6 0.61 511.48 2.28 0.65 52.51 1 7 0.65 702.70 2.10 0.67 51.16 1 8 0.70 860.12 2.40 0.71 51.82 1 9 0.68 1100.00 2.15 0.63 51.27 1 10 0.68 1400.00 2.15 0.63 51.27 2 1 1.83 232.98 0.91 1.16 58.30 2 2 1.48 251.45 1.23 1.27 57.78 2 3 1.32 318.93 1.22 1.28 58.30 2 4 1.06 395.45 1.36 1.07 56.09 2 5 1.02 513.45 1.41 1.05 54.45 2 6 1.00 745.25 1.45 1.00 53.92 2 7 0.95 928.14 1.46 0.99 53.53 2 8 0.88 1162.12 1.31 0.91 51.62 2 9 0.97 1540.28 1.32 0.80 50.96 2 10 1.03 1882.27 1.43 0.80 49.60 3 1 1.83 232.98 0.91 1.16 58.30 3 2 1.48 251.45 1.23 1.27 57.78 3 3 1.17 345.70 0.84 0.89 56.30 3 4 1.25 413.58 1.13 1.32 56.33 3 5 1.25 657.37 1.24 1.15 56.07 3 6 1.04 832.30 0.92 0.88 53.91 3 7 1.00 1106.68 1.02 0.92 54.23 3 8 0.92 1283.61 1.07 0.81 52.12 3 9 0.90 1579.22 0.98 0.68 51.03 3 10 0.95 1918.96 1.08 0.64 49.34 4 1 1.83 232.98 0.91 1.16 58.30 4 2 1.82 299.69 0.94 1.51 58.65 4 3 1.58 394.74 0.98 1.50 58.67 4 4 1.34 481.33 0.91 1.30 57.11 4 5 1.18 605.39 0.81 1.33 54.63 4 6 1.05 802.78 0.77 1.08 53.20 4 7 1.05 1053.92 0.84 1.10 52.86 4 8 1.01 1369.06 0.69 0.98 51.12 4 9 1.02 1719.84 0.69 0.81 50.82 4 10 1.12 2153.40 0.71 0.64 49.22 5 1 1.37 216.63 0.19 1.35 56.29 5 2 1.37 216.63 0.19 1.35 56.29 5 3 1.12 353.64 0.14 1.52 55.62 5 4 1.02 426.75 0.12 1.48 54.47 5 5 1.13 653.26 0.10 1.47 54.02 5 6 1.04 892.83 0.10 1.36 53.17 5 7 0.93 1094.53 0.06 1.02 51.91 5 8 0.90 1295.90 0.04 0.77 51.09 5 9 0.90 1525.78 0.04 0.74 50.33 5 10 0.93 1770.55 0.04 0.75 49.69

Ok we will just post it there in json, and that will be it Thank you!

Hi, Over at wotlabs we have finally agreed on a method for updating the expected values for WN8. We have new expected values ready to go and want to give them to you guys so xvm can use them too. Seriych advised me to talk to sirmax or iBat about that. We would like the update to be effective as of 1 July 2014. There will be further updates every 3 months after that, or sooner if there are new tanks. sirmax or iBat please PM me so I can give you the new expected values, as I am new to this forum and cannot pm you. Gryphon