Stargazer

Thanks for reply, but still it's just not fair With ob 252u and defender, t26e5 and patriot there is a little difference, but with 13 57 and 13 57gf there is HUGE difference. You have to do even more frags, spot, WR than on amx 13 90 and more damage than on B-C 12t on 7 tier? Game isn't fair, I expect xvm and wn8 to be fair... I bought 13 57 and now i want to return it just because it's too hard to have good wn8 on this. I checked player Circonflexes stats, he have both of these vehicles and he have almost 100 overall more damage on NO GF, almost 2% less WR on NO GF, exactly the same xp. Statistics should be very similiar, but NO, he have 4469,00WN8 on 13 57 and 5745,61WN8 on 13 57 GF. There is just no point and it's a big nosense.

@yepev Yeah, little databeses from 20k battles on both vehicles, you don't know the site so you should be quiet. And i don't care about your opinion, i will at least try to fight for fairness. Regardless Thanks for your opinion, but you said enough and I want to see others opinion Have a nice evening @yepev(At least evening for me :D)

@yepev Database is from http://www.vbaddict.net i just think that it's unfair and such things shouldn't take a place! People should play GF version instead of normal, because it;s easier to make statistics on it? It's nonsense

Yeah, by stats of GF version, people on 13 57 are doing average less than expected, just look at Win Rate.

I noticed that it's much harder to get good wn8 on 13 57 without GF and it doesn't have any sense... These vehicles should have the same expected values, because they are the same. Probably better players have GF version, and they need to do less? What's the point?? Expected values on GF should be higher or NO GF values should be lower. In my opinion NO GF version expected values are too high compared to other light tanks like T71 DA, a very strong tank, with even better gun. Best regards, Stargazer